While one Presbyterian denomination celebrates last Friday’s U.S. Supreme Court decision making same-sex marriages legal in all states, another one grieves, a third states that it does not regard the decision “to be in keeping with God’s intentions for marriage,” and a fourth affirms that marriage is a gift from God between one man and one woman.”
The Presbyterian Church (USA)
“The Presbyterian Church (USA) is celebrating the U.S. Supreme Court ruling that same-gender couples have a constitutional right to marry nationwide, striking down bans in 14 states,” read the opening paragraph of a June 26 Presbyterian New Service (PNS) article. “Church leaders believe today’s ruling is a step in the right direction as society’s views have continued to change in recent years.”
The PCUSA’s Stated Clerk Grayde Parsons told the PNS that the denomination has “advocated for almost four decades for civil rights for lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender persons. Today’s decision by the U.S. Supreme Court is in keeping with that work.”
Another PCUSA leader, the Rev. Dr. J. Herbert Nelson, director of the denomination’s Office of Public Witness said that it’s “always good when the church is at the front end of a movement such as this and catches the spirit in the wind of where people are attempting to move society and give voice to those who have long been silenced … Our task now is to educate congregations and address how the church is to engage society and our differences. It’s much more than a gay/lesbian issue. We are seeing laws overturned in favor of communities that have not always been represented.”
The Office of the General Assembly, which is the constitutional/legal arm of the PCUSA, posted a document to answer questions about how the ruling will affect clergy and congregations.
“Same Gender Marriage after Supreme Court: Obergefell v. Hodges,” clearly states that “Nothing in our Constitution shall compel a teaching elder to perform a marriage service that the teaching elder believes is contrary to the teaching elder’s discernment of the Holy Spirit and understanding of the Word of God.”
In response to five questions concerning the new law of the land, the document does include some worrying statements that will only be answered as the courts continue to hear cases and issue further rulings on these issues. The questions and some of the troubling answers include: (Emphases added)
- “What does this mean for marriage in the state in which I live?”
- “What does this mean for clergy performing marriage ceremonies? … The Supreme Court recognized that religious individuals and institutions may continue to teach and practice sincerely held religious beliefs so we presume that clergy may not be compelled by the state to perform or officiate a marriage between two people that violates the sincerely held religious belief of the clergy…”
- “What does this mean for congregations? Will congregations be required to host a wedding ceremony that violates their sincerely held religious belief? … This is a fluid area of law and any congregation concerned about the use of their buildings should consult with a licensed attorney in their state.”
- “What if a teaching elder (pastor) in a called or temporary position disagrees with a session on the use of church property for a same gender wedding? … It is possible that the effectiveness of a teaching elder in a particular call to congregational ministry may be affected by any ongoing disagreement between a session and a teaching elder.”
- “Will the tax-exempt status of our congregation be affected by our decision not to open the building to same-gendered marriage? The case does not go to the question about tax-exempt status of congregations. The tax exempt status of a congregation will probably not be affected by any decision about the use of property as long as the congregation’s policies and procedures are clear that they are based upon a sincerely held religious belief.”
Carmen Fowler LaBerge, president of the Presbyterian Lay Committee commented that “proving a local congregation has a ‘sincerely held religious belief’ that is no longer shared by the denomination with which it is affiliated will mean that there’s no larger ecclesiastical backstop for PCUSA churches. The statement says as much in #3 where it is evident that the denomination does not intend to assist its congregations in defending their conscience in this matter. The presumption indicated in the answer to question #2 is equally troubling. If you are a PCUSA teaching elder, you may currently have protection under the denomination’s constitution but it does not sound as if the denomination is prepared to defend you in civil court should the state determine to compel you.”
The Evangelical Presbyterian Church

Bill Dudley prays for the church and the nation after hearing the news of the court ruling at the EPC’s assembly.
In its statement about the Supreme Court’s ruling, the Evangelical Presbyterian Church firmly stated “a church we must adhere to the biblical definition of marriage, rather than a cultural one.”
The court’s ruling was announced during the EPC’s 35th General Assembly meeting. Upon hearing the news, the EPC took time from its busy schedule to allow Former GA Moderator Bill Dudley to pray for the church and in the nation in light of the news.
The EPC’s statement read:
The Evangelical Presbyterian Church grieves today’s ruling of the Supreme Court, which illustrates the continued disregard for the biblical, traditional, Judeo-Christian values upon which the foundation of our nation was established. As a church, we continue to rest our faith in the sovereign God and the authority of His Holy Word. We pray faithfully for our nation and our leaders as so commanded by Scripture.
We bear no malice toward those with a same-sex attraction; in fact, we love them with the love of Christ. However, as a church we must adhere to the biblical definition of marriage, rather than a cultural one.
We recognize that civil governments adopt policies that do not align with biblical values. However, those policies must never require that people of faith abandon the clear teaching of Scripture, forfeit the right to proclaim those truths, or change their beliefs or practices.
The Presbyterian Church in America
L. Roy Taylor, stated clerk of the Presbyterian Church in America, issued a statement on the court’s ruling on Saturday.
The PCA, he said, “believes that from creation God ordained the marriage covenant to be a bond only between one man and one woman. That understanding is what the Church has always believed, taught, and confessed. It is based upon the teachings of the Holy Scriptures and is clearly stated in the doctrinal standards of the PCA.”
In both of its doctrinal standards – The Westminster Confession of Faith and its Book of Order – the PCA affirms biblical marriage as being between one man and one woman.
Taylor’s full statement reads:
The Supreme Court of the United States has issued a 5-4 ruling legalizing same-sex marriage. The Office of the Stated Clerk of the Presbyterian Church in America (PCA) has received numerous inquiries regarding the position of the PCA on this issue. The PCA, like other evangelical, conservative, orthodox, and traditional Christians from many denominations, believes that from creation God ordained the marriage covenant to be a bond only between one man and one woman. That understanding is what the Church has always believed, taught, and confessed. It is based upon the teachings of the Holy Scriptures and is clearly stated in the doctrinal standards of the PCA.
Over the last 2,000 years, changing cultures and secular legal perspectives have differed on significant occasions from that of Christians and the Church because the Church bases her ethical and moral positions on timeless truths divinely revealed in the Bible. The Ancient and Undivided Church disagreed with abortion and infanticide, practices that were acceptable in Roman culture and legal under Roman law. In 1973 the Supreme Court of the United States legalized abortion. Though abortion became legal, we cannot regard it to be moral. Though same-sex marriage is now legal, the PCA, like many others, does not regard it to be in keeping with God’s intentions for marriage. We hope that the recent Supreme Court ruling does not become the occasion for limiting the religious and free-speech rights of believers and churches who, like others for thousands of years, sincerely believe in traditional marriage.
ECO: A Covenant Order of Evangelical Presbyterians
In an email to all of its churches, Dana Allin, synod executive of ECO: A Covenant Order of Evangelical Presbyterians said that “In ECO, we affirm that marriage is a gift from God between one man and one woman. We affirm that sexuality is also a gift, which is to be expressed within this covenant of marriage. Scripture, our Essential Tenets, and confessions all speak with one unified voice on the subject of marriage.”
He said “We are not yet sure of the ramifications of the Supreme Court decision,” for ECO. Discussions are being held with other denominations that “maintain the orthodox Christian faith,” and that as information becomes available it will be shared with ECO presbyteries.
In response to the question, “How do we respond?,” Allin said “Preach and live the gospel. Whenever church finds itself at odds with culture, we have the opportunity to thrive in new ways as we live out the gospel in a conflicted context. Let us be people who live the model of Jesus by being welcoming and transforming for all people, in all aspects of our lives. Each of us has places in our lives that need to come under the Lordship of Jesus and the transforming power of the Spirit. Can we be people that welcome and love one another wherever we are, and yet love one another enough to work for mutual transformation? I think we can, and I think that as we do, the gospel will flourish! Let’s pray together to that end.”
Divided witness
Of the divided witness of these four Presbyterian denominations LaBerge concluded, “The mind of Christ is not divided on this nor any other matter. It does grieve me that the witness of Presbyterians is so divided. Such division only serves to further degrade the perception of unbelievers as they consider Christianity and her Christ.
“As you read the four statements of the four denominations it could not be more clear that the PCUSA is guided not by the Bible nor the Confessions but by ‘society’s views’ which ‘have continued to change in recent years,’ and by ‘the spirit in the wind of where people are attempting to move society.’ Alignment with the prevailing spirit of the world is not, and has never been, the calling of the Church.”
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The PCUSA response to the ruling is embarrassing. It’s not only totally unorthodox, but so intellectually weak-minded. Why require PCUSA pastors to attend seminary if PCUSA leadership can produce this drivel.
The Stated Clerk Grayde Parsons has one job in the pcusa and thats of bean counter, he counts money coming in and the churches going out. All this court decision does is open a whole can of worms for churches that will not marry gay couples.
If anybody thinks that the louisville sluggers are going to defend pcusa churches that don’t perform same sex weddings, they’re smoking dope and no ex-hailing!
Maybe my reply to the troubling questions stated in this article is too oversimplistic, but anyway here goes.
Perhaps it’s time for the “church” to break away from being an agent of the state by way of signing marriage license issued by the state. Let couples appear before an official to document the legalness aspect and have the church perform Gods blessing on the marriage. Still lots of questions even about this.
I’ve had the same thought, but like you don’t have all the answers to the implications of such a change. However, it is only the faithful denominations that might consider this option. PCUSA is only too glad to embrace the new order and participate in state-sanctioned same-sex marriages.
[Note: in the past, I’ve posted comments under the name “Don”; but I see someone else has posted comments in the past few days using that name. So I’ll change to Don M going forward].
I’ve been advocating this for a couple of years now. Turns out C.S. Lewis was ahead of me by 60 years!http://www.curmudgeons-progress.com/christianity/church-and-civil-marriage-no-longer-mix/
The passage of Amendment 10-A seemed to have little effect in the congregation of which I used to be a member. Perhaps orthodox members of the congregation thought, “Well, that doesn’t affect our congregation”. Then the associate pastor voted for Amendment 14-F in presbytery. But most members didn’t know she voted that way; and besides, it was still no big deal, they may have reasoned, because same-sex marriage wasn’t legal in Texas. Well, now it is. And that congregation has at least one pastor willing and ready to officiate a same-sex marriage. And the Session will be motivated to approve such a wedding by fear of being sued by the groom and groom, or bride and bride. So, orthodox members of PCUSA congregations can’t kick the can down the road anymore. Their day of choosing between faithfulness to the Word, and feelings of attachment to their congregation, has arrived.
Perhaps they learn to produce this drivel in seminary…
I guess that we will see more cafeteria Presbyterians. They will accept those things that they believe in and reject those things that they don’t believe in.
Is there any significance to the fact that the PC(USA) statement refers to “same-gender” marriage rather than “same-sex” marriage?
What we in African are reading from PCUSA is disturbing to our established Christian faith. However, the race is becoming more of individual’s tasj and responsibilities, but permit me to say this: PCUSA, that had been on the leading roll is surprisingly backsliding and the wrath of God on this issue could be emminent and its only unfortunate that the Scripture is being fulfilled: “the first shall be the last and the last first” you may neer Africans to help you on this matter. Humbly submitted.
In my first write up the word intende is “task” and not tasj. Second comment is focused on Roy Taylor’s comments made earlier. Sir, if really the CHURCH-PCUSA still believes in Westminster Confession of Faith; & other confessional statements as documents for standard of faith, then the church outside the civil court still has loco standi for standing on her own, I should think so, sir! Uka is from Presbyterian Church of Nigeria.
That the PCUSA has been going in the World’s direction rather than God’s direction is the reason I left our local church (which is PCUSA); I would still like to be a Presbyterian, but there are no EPC, PCA, or ECO churches in our area to attend. Right now I am covenanting with some good Free Methodists. James says “friendship with the world is enmity with God.” PCUSA is way too friendly with the World, to the point of apostasy. They are inviting God’s judgment, sad to say.
The reason I left the Moravian Church was when a minister, in his sermon, stated while listing the sins, “and homosexuality, if you choose to believe so. I told the board we were leaving because we didn’t believe sins were a smorgasbord affair, where we got to pick and choose. Last summer the No. Province approved ordaining homosexuals.
Your comparison of the various Presbyterian denominations makes me rather pleased and proud that I have been and am a part of The Presbyterian Church (USA).
In my opinion, PC/USA has been, and is, suffering God’s judgement as it’s membership and number of congregations continue to fade. Contemplating the future of this apostate denomination is like watching sand fall in an hour glass.
I have been a Presbyterian for 52 years. As some celebrate the Supreme Court’s decision….I grieve. Dr. Nelson, states that it’s “always good when the church is at the front end of a movement such as this and catches the spirit in the wind.” I don’t know what spirit he’s referring to but it’s not the Holy Spirit. The Spirit of God never moves His church away from the clear teaching of Scripture. The PCUSA is absolutely on the wrong side of history.
I look forward to no longer being a part of PCUSGAY
God created them male and female. Mankind created “gender” out of an inability to live within the fences that God in his love set up for our overall good. AIDS is but a recent example of insisting on living outsie of the lines. And PCUSA warmly embraces this???!!!