A response to the discussion regarding limited Atonement
Posted Friday, August 31, 2007
In reference to the recent letters regarding the debate over limited Atonement, I find the correspondence of Revs. Benton [Letters, August 28, 2007] and Yearsley [Letters, August 24, 2007] to be theologically tendentious, and both ignore Scripture and The Book of Confessions.
See John 12:32, I Timothy 2:3-5 and Colossians 19-20, among others, that offer a Biblical response to the idea that Jesus died only for the “elect.”
Also, these words from The Book of Confessions in the Second Helvetic Confession and the Addendum to the Westminster Confession of Faith:
- “And although God knows who are his, and here and there mention is made of the small number of elect, yet we must hope well of all, and not rashly judge any man to be a reprobate. … the doctrine of God’s eternal decree is held in harmony with his love for all people, his gift of his Son to be the propitiation for the sins of the whole world, and his readiness to bestow his saving grace on all who seek it; that concerning those who perish, the doctrine of God’s eternal decree is held in harmony with the doctrine that God does not desire the death of any sinner, but has provided in Christ a salvation sufficient for all.”
Contrary to Rev. Yearsley, the Canons of Dordt are not part of our Book of Confessions and do not bind our conscience.
Does this mean universalism? Of course not; it does mean that God is God is God and we are not and that the final disposition of creation and all its parts, including sinners like us, is far beyond the comprehension of creatures bound by historical particularity and prone to error. To impose limits on the redeeming grace of our Lord Jesus Christ is, however, quite heretical.
Rev. W. Patterson Lyles
Book of Order should be called ‘Book of Recommendations’
Posted Friday, August 31, 2007
Due to the results of our last General Assembly in June 2006, we might want to consider renaming our Presbyterian constitution.
Because PUP was approved, in some ways our Book of Order now should be called our “Book of Recommendations.” Sadly grieving,
Christian Larsen elder, Fair Oaks Presbyterian Church, Fair Oaks, Calif.
A response to the overture regarding mounting debt in the U.S.
Posted Friday, August 31, 2007
And now, from those wonderful folks who brought you the PUP report – federal budget reform.
Michael R. “Mac” McCarty
PCUSA statistics indicate other reasons than death for membership losses
Posted Friday, August 31, 2007
Several have recently commented that deaths are a major reason for the decline in the Presbyterian Church (USA) membership. Your readers may want to check out the statistics published by Louisville headquarters on the yearly losses from 1986 to 2005.
These statistics indicate that deaths account for 20.5 percent of the total membership losses. During the past 20 years, deaths have averaged 40,500 per year. In the past five years, deaths have averaged 37,600 per year.
While it might be comforting to believe that deaths are the cause for the declining membership in PCUSA churches, these statistics indicate there are other reasons.
Larry Rued
Evangelicals need to change the Book of Order to survive
Posted Thursday, August 30, 2007
It has been quite some time since I have written in. For a year and some months, my letters encouraged churches to use the legal system to leave the Presbyterian Church (USA).
The reality is that the vast majority of evangelical congregations do not want to leave. If that is the case, in order for the evangelicals to remain effective, they really need to amend the PCUSA constitution (Book of Order) to create a safe place for themselves within the denomination. We need to amend the constitution in such a way that we have our own identifiable place within the denomination where we maintain our own ordination standards, statements of faith, etc. We also need to form the denomination in such a way that it does not become “Balkanized” – we need to find common ground with the progressives. Keep in mind that many of the great evangelical Presbyterian churches are in presbyteries that are either “indifferent” or “progressive.”
On the whole, this may not be a bad thing. Our Lord has a time and purpose for all things, even though we do not see it presently. I know that this can be very frustrating and may even cause us to send some anger the Lord’s way. But maybe the folks we are to reach are in the “progressive” camp.
It has seemed like a very dry, tough season. But it is in the dry, tough seasons where genuine growth takes place and our temporary frustration with the Lord gives way to joy. Take a look at these proposed amendments to the Book or Order. One of the best ways to create a safe place is to create a two-synod system and change much of the denominational structure to accommodate it.
Take a look at the proposed amendments. If you like them, propose them to your presbytery and submit them as an overture to the next General Assembly in San Jose, Calif. I will see you there.
Congregations need to look at all of their options. The Constitutional Presbyterians movement is a vital part of that. But if we stay, we have to change this constitution to survive and thrive.
As a postscript, I still need to add some miscellaneous conforming proposed amendments from the other parts of the Book of Order. So, it is not entirely complete, but take a look. Whatever you do, do not give up and know that the Lord is faithful and is God.
John Almquist
A response to Larry Brown’s letter
Posted Thursday, August 30, 2007
Larry Brown [Letters, August 28, 2007] is indeed correct. When one checks the statistics book, the vast majority of members are leaving the Presbyterian Church (USA) by way of death. The problem is they are not being replaced by a new generation of confirmation students, adult conversions or people reaffirming their faith after an absence from church life.
He also is correct that it is not a liberal-conservative issue, nor strictly a PCUSA issue. Christianity is being challenged by many different types of faith, as well as by secularism (or just plain apathy) in general. While one easily can find individual congregations in many denominations that are growing, including in the PCUSA, even the rate of growth in the once fastest-growing denominations – such as the Assemblies of God and the Southern Baptists – seems to have leveled off, gone into decline or were overly inflated in the first place.
It always is easy to “blame the other side” for all the problems but, perhaps, the reality is that everyone’s animosity is part of the problem.
John Pehrson Salina, Kan.
A reply to Larry Brown’s letter
Posted Thursday, August 30, 2007
Larry Brown [Letters, August 28, 2007] mentions that the Presbyterian Church in America’s statistics end in 2005 and that probably means that the PCA doesn’t like its 2006 statistics.
Actually, it’s just an indication of someone forgetting to update a link. Try this one. You will discover that the PCA had its best increase from 2005 to 2006 with the stats available.
Gary L. Cole Jr. member , Christ Presbyterian Church PCA, Beaver Falls, Pa., Student/Pittsburgh Theological Seminary
My prayers go out’ to Peters Creek church
Posted Thursday, August 30, 2007
It now should be quite clear that this situation [Letters, August 29, 2007] is no longer a “spiritual discernment” between two equal parties but, instead, has become a hostage negotiation.
They probably should treat the presbytery commission as they would any organized crime syndicate. My prayers go out to Dr. Howard and the congregation.
Toby Brown Cuero, Texas
Letter was ‘somewhat incongruous’
Posted Thursday, August 30, 2007
I found the letter [Letters, August 29, 2007] of the Rev. Hal Porter somewhat incongruous. Several years ago, I filed a disciplinary accusation against Rev. Porter for doing the exact same thing as Rev. Spahr has now been convicted and disciplined for doing: purporting to perform a marriage ceremony between persons of the same sex.
Rev. Porter, as opposed to the Rev. Steve Van Kuiken from the same congregation and against whom I simultaneously made the same accusation, not only admitted the facts of my allegation, but agreed to never do so again, in a formal written settlement pursuant to D-10.0202(h).
All three ministers, Porter, Van Kiuken and Spahr, engaged in precisely the same misconduct, but only Porter copped a plea. The others went to trial and lost. Porter has every right to praise Spahr but, in the interest of full disclosure, should have pointed out in his letter the facts concerning his plea to the same offense.
Paul Rolf Jensen general counsel, Westminster Fellowship, Inc., Costa Mesa, Calif.
Misuse of authority in Washington Presbytery not a big surprise
Posted Wednesday, August 29, 2007
Washington Presbytery has set a new low in their handling of the Peters Creek issue.
As many regular readers are aware, Peters Creek Presbyterian Church [Venetia, Pa.] in Washington Presbytery expressed its intention to call a vote of the congregation to determine the will of the congregation as to whether to remain in the Presbyterian Church (USA) or to seek dismissal to another Reformed body. Immediately upon learning of the desire to hold this vote, Washington Presbytery established an administrative commission to “handle” this problem.
The course of this journey has been anything but smooth. Without the vote being held (as yet), the administrative commission has inserted itself into every facet of the discussion and has tried mightily to quell the effort. There have been injunctions, threats and rancor on both sides.
I am appalled to find out the latest of several maneuvers by this commission. In the past two weeks, they have notified the session of the church that they may not receive a new members class – a class that has been preparing for membership for some time. These are people who have been worshiping and participating in the life of Peters Creek for at least six months to (in some cases) a year. Now, the administrative commission informs the session of the church that if they receive this class before any anticipated vote, the presbytery will consider that a “hostile act.” How is that for a veiled threat?
The administrative commission, seated by the presbytery and speaking for the presbytery, is directing a session to withhold membership from a class of people seeking to join the church. This in a denomination that loses an average of 45,000 members a year.
What more evidence do you need of the evil and ill intent at the presbytery level? Furthermore, where are the conservative, faithful clergy of Washington Presbytery hiding? Are you indeed so fearful for your corporate security and your pensions that you can close your eyes to this type of behavior? Worse, are you permitting it? Perhaps, you are afraid that, if you speak up, they’ll come for you next. Ever heard of Martin Niemoller?
Last time I looked at the Book of Order, membership in the church was the purview and responsibility of the session of the particular church.
It is no secret that the ideological chasm between clergy and members is wide, but there must be some men and women of courage and principle in that presbytery who can and should be questioning this sort of high-handed and dictatorial behavior.
Rev. Jim Yearsley Tampa, Fla.
Regarding story about Jane Spahr case
Posted Wednesday, August 29, 2007
According to a recent article linked by The Layman Online, homosexual activist Jane Spahr was convicted for violating standards in the Presbyterian Church (USA) Book of Order by performing wedding services for two same-sex couples. The article included two quotes that are worth investigating.
The first was the statement that Ms. Spahr’s actions were at odds with the church’s constitution despite the fact that she “acted with conscience and conviction.”
The second was a quote attributed to Ms. Spahr stating, “I want so much for the church to be a place of welcome, and to take our relationships seriously. … I want the church to be that place of hospitality and welcome. Not to tolerate us, but to accept us and love us for who we are.”
Regarding Ms. Spahr’s acting “with conscience and conviction,” the constitution of the PCUSA states:
“2. God alone is Lord of the conscience, and hath left it free from the doctrines and commandments of men which are in anything contrary to his Word, or beside it in matters of faith or worship. So that to believe such doctrines, or to obey such commandments out of conscience, is to betray true liberty of conscience; and the requiring an implicit faith, and an absolute and blind obedience, is to destroy liberty of conscience, and reason also.
“3. They who, upon pretense of Christian liberty, do practice any sin, or cherish any lust, do thereby destroy the end of Christian liberty; which is, that, being delivered out of the hands of our enemies, we might serve the Lord without fear, in holiness and righteousness before him, all the days of our life.” (Book of Confessions, §6.109-§6.110, emphasis added)
The import of Ms. Spahr’s actions was not that she “acted with conscience and conviction” and thereby violated the constitution of the PCUSA, which are the results of synods and councils, which are susceptible to error (Book of Confessions, §6.175), but that she “acted with conscience and conviction” and thereby violated the law of God.
Now, one might say that the Bible nowhere forbids a lawful minister of Word and sacrament from conducting a wedding worship service for a same-sex couple; therefore, this action is not a sin, and whoever forbids such a minister from conducting such a service is arbitrarily forcing his or her own opinion on others, and is therefore violating the minister’s freedom of conscience.
However, the Bible is inescapably clear when it condemns homosexual activity (Genesis 19:4-7; Leviticus 18:22, 20:13; Deuteronomy 23:17; Judges 19:22-24; Romans 1:24-27; I Corinthians 6:9-10; and I Timothy 1:9-10). Indeed, Scripture is entirely bereft of examples of Divine sanction on sexual activity between two people of the same gender.
Moreover, the Bible is likewise unambiguous when it presents marriage as God’s creation designed to join one man with one woman for as long as the both of them shall live (Genesis 1:26-27, 2:18-25; and Matthew 19:4-6); prescribes rules for the individual conduct of the husband and wife (Ephesians 5:21-33, I Peter 3:1-7); proscribes divorce (Malachi 2:13-16; Matthew 5:31-32, 19:1-12; I Corinthians 7:10-11); and commands that marriage be held in honor by all and that the marriage bed must be kept undefiled (Hebrews 13:4). Indeed, wherever Scripture speaks of marriage, it is spoken of between man and woman, between husband and wife, and never between two individuals of the same gender.
Given that sexual activity between two individuals displeases God and is therefore condemned by Him as sin, and given that marriage is ordained by God from creation and that all are commanded by Him to hold it in honor and not to soil it with the world’s ideas, it is unthinkable that the sanctioning of homosexual marriages (or any other union in which sexual activity between two individuals of the same gender is sanctioned) does not displease Him and is not held by Him to be sin. We can be sure, therefore, that on Judgment Day He will hold those to account who exhibit contempt for God’s creation of marriage by lying to the world, saying that He sanctions homosexual marriages.
Therefore, for one to claim freedom of conscience and conviction with respect to homosexual marriages is to hold a doctrine that is contrary to the Word of God and which thereby destroys the end of Christian liberty in that it mocks the law of God and falsely teaches that an action universally condemned by God as sin is somehow sanctioned by Him under certain circumstances, when no sanction can be found in the Scriptures.
Secondly, I wish to respond to Ms. Spahr’s statement, “I want so much for the church to be a place of welcome and to take our relationships seriously. … I want the church to be that place of hospitality and welcome. Not to tolerate us, but to accept us and love us for who we are.”
It may come as a surprise to some, given what I have just said, but I completely agree with this statement. However, I do not agree with Ms. Spahr’s underlying premise that this means sanctioning homosexual activities or marriages.
The Church was created by God on the day of Pentecost to be a covenant community of believers who own Jesus Christ as Lord and trust Him as Savior. It is designed by Him for mutual love, support and accountability for the purpose of making men and women fully devoted followers of Jesus Christ. The members of the Church, corporately and individually, are responsible to Christ for reaching out in love to the world around them, feeding the hungry, sheltering the homeless, loving the lonely.
Likewise, the members of the Church, corporately and individually, are responsible to Jesus Christ for reaching out with Christian love and the Gospel of Jesus Christ to a world lost in sin. But this love must not be the enabling love of a co-dependent. It must be the tough love shown to the alcoholic, drug abuser or sex addict and is needed to break their enslavement to homosexual intercourse.
Let us be clear: The sin of the homosexual does not lie in desiring to build a caring, loving relationship with someone of the same gender. The relationships of father-son, mother-daughter, brothers and sisters fall into this category, as do many other friendships. It is not the relationship itself that is sinful. Rather, it is the homosexual intercourse that displeases God and is therefore sinful.
God does not give some people a “homosexual orientation” while He gives others a “heterosexual orientation.” The so-called “homosexual orientation” is a result of Original Sin. Just as some people are prone to the sins of lust, gambling, coveting or gossip, there are those who are prone to the sin of homosexuality. One can be tempted to commit a particular sin, but not commit it, for it is not sin to be tempted. It is in the commission of the act, either mentally or physically, wherein the sin lies. “Homosexual orientation” cannot be predicated of God, for He forbids homosexual intercourse as sin and He does not give people a proclivity to sin – that is the fault of our first parents when they disobeyed Him in the Garden (Genesis 3 and Romans 5:12-14). “God cannot be tempted with evil, and he himself tempts no one” (James 1:13).
Although we are required by the Lord to love the impenitent homosexual and to welcome him into the church as a visitor, we must not permit him to join the church as a member, much less ordain him into a leadership position, until he repents of his sin.
Faulty thinking has crept into the church of late that teaches that although God would like us to turn from our sin, He understands that it is quite impossible. After all, the Bible acknowledges that there is none without sin (Romans 3:23; and I John 1:8,10) and Jesus Himself commands that we should not judge others (Matthew 7:1-5).
However, this thinking fails to realize that those who come to Jesus Christ must come with an attitude of repentance. “From that time Jesus began to preach, saying, ‘Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand'” (Matthew 4:17). And again: “(I) declared first to those in Damascus, then in Jerusalem and throughout all Judea, and also to the Gentiles, that they should repent and turn to God, performing deeds in keeping with their repentanc.” (Acts 26:20).
In order to turn to Jesus Christ, one must turn from sin. Faith in Jesus Christ and repentance from sin go hand-in-hand; you cannot have faith without repentance. As the Church confesses, “Although repentance be not to be rested in as any satisfaction for sin, or any cause of the pardon thereof, which is the act of God’s free grace in Christ, yet is it of such necessity to all sinners, that none may expect pardon without it.” (Book of Confessions, §6.083, emphasis added)
An impenitent Christian is a contradiction in terms. “To live in Christ means to die to sin. We are to turn from darkness (sin) to light (Christ) and from the power of Satan to God, that (we) may receive forgiveness of sins” (Acts 26:18). “For what partnership has righteousness with lawlessness? Or what fellowship has light with darkness? What accord has Christ with Belial?”(II Corinthians 6:14-15). “What shall we say then? Are we to continue in sin that grace may abound? By no means! How can we who died to sin still live in it?” (Romans 6:12).
Repentance from sin is an absolutely crucial element in our identity in Christ. If it is absent from our lives, the Church is obliged to ask us if we are truly in Christ.
Repentance does not mean that we are no longer sinners or that we will never sin again. But it does mean that we will diligently watch for it in our lives and stamp it out whenever we find it, that the Lord might present us “holy and blameless and above reproach before Him” (Colossians 1:22).
Thus, those who practice homosexuality must repent of it in order to be reconciled with God. And this is not manifestly impossible, as homosexual apologists contend, for Paul acknowledged that there were former homosexuals among the membership of the Corinthian Church (I Corinthians 6:9-11).
Finally, I would be remiss if I did not acknowledge that repentance is impossible with men and only possible with God (Matthew 19:26). We cannot turn our hearts from sin – only God can do that. A practicing homosexual cannot change his desire for homosexual intercourse any more than a leopard can change his spots. What he can do is come humbly before God, as we all must do, for we are all sinners desperately in need of a Savior, and ask the Lord to take from us the desire for sinning.
For “He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness” (I John 1:9) “And whoever comes to Me, I will never cast out.” (John 6:37).
Loren Golden Overland Park, Kan.
Thank you for story about Spahr case, More Light Presbyterians
Posted Wednesday, August 29, 2007
I was pleased you put on your Web site Michael Adee’s lament regarding the synod’s permanent judicial commission decision against Janie Spahr. It was fair reporting.
Michael is just such a fine, literate spokesperson for the More Light movement – openly gay, openly Christian. I love him. Thank you.
Karl Landstrom [Letters, August 27, 2007] also wrote you a letter regarding that same decision. He is a fine, intelligent person, but he ought to know that our constitution is far more complex about homosexuals in the church than he acknowledges. Our constitution is a living document and we ought to challenge it by our faith convictions, which Janie did, openly and, as we used to say, “subjecting herself to her brethren.” Bless her.
I hope all Presbyterians are reading the excellent work done by two outstanding Presbyterians on the subject: A Time to Embrace by William Stacy Johnson and Jesus, the Bible and Homosexuality by Jack Rogers. Yes, it is time to embrace, confess our wrong and move on with all the members of the Presbyterian Church (USA) regardless of their gender.
Hal Porter honorably retired, Cincinnati, Ohio
Is liberalism the only problem?
Posted Tuesday, August 28, 2007
I’ve been following The Layman Online for the past six years. A recurring theme has been that the Presbyterian Church (USA) is losing members – is, in fact, in a precipitous decline – and that it is entirely because of liberal theology.
Lately, I’ve been questioning that. I know for a fact that my Evangelical Presbyterian Church presbytery has about the same number of members today that it had 15 years ago, in spite of the fact that one of our congregations went from zero to 6,000 members during that time (it’s one of those rock n’ roll “seeker sensitive” churches, where you wonder if it’s converting society or if society is converting the church).
The PCUSA Web site gives 10-year statistics for individual congregations. Comparing the stats of churches I knew to be conservative with ones I knew to be liberal, I concluded that there doesn’t seem to be any connection between trends in membership and theological position. Looking at the Presbyterian Church in America Web site, membership growth seems to have stopped at 2005, the last year statistics are given. I suspect they stop there because more recent figures say something the PCA doesn’t like. Recently, the president of the Southern Baptist Convention suggested that of the 16-million reported members, about five million couldn’t be found by the FBI.
I got some figures from the U.S. Bureau of the Census Web site. The median age for the U.S. population is 36.4 years. The death rate for white people is nine per thousand. If the membership of the PCUSA is 2,267,000 then, in the year 2007-08, 20,403 PCUSA members will die.
But wait a minute, it gets worse. The median age for members of the PCUSA is much higher than the general population; in fact, it’s 58. o you would expect more deaths per thousand. So, when The Layman reports a membership drop of 46,000, it’s probably more due to aging and death than to unhappiness over liberal theology.
There are a number of reasons why a conservative church may decline. Here are some that I’ve personally observed:
- 1. Coldness to visitors (“Well! Someone seems to be sitting in our spot!”).
- 2. The changing neighborhood – into one that’s predominantly minority people.
- 3. The dying town that has lost its young people.
- 4. Evangel-phobia (“What! Me share my faith with someone? Mormons do that, not Presbyterians!’) Hint: There are Web sites dealing with evangelism and outreach.
- 5. The domineering “My Way or the Highway” ruling elder (“This is my church, and if you don’t like it, you can leave”).
- 6. The pastor who thinks he’s the pope.
I would agree with The Layman that any denomination in which an unbeliever can become an ordained minister of Word and sacrament – in good standing – is a sick puppy. But the decline in American Christianity seems to be across the board, affecting conservatives and liberals alike. We may want to try to be more creative than to simply shout, “Liberal! Liberal!”
Most urban Presbyterian churches I’ve seen looked like the country club at prayer. In seminary, I was given a course called “Pastoral Ministry” in which we were taught how to fold a napkin in the country club dining hall.
I remember that my mother stopped attending the local Presbyterian church in the sixties, when I was nine. She struggled to support a family of four on a schoolteacher’s salary, and said she couldn’t afford the clothes that the other Presbyterian ladies sported at church.
The minister would preach about compassion for the poor and dispossessed of the world, and there was this family down the street who didn’t feel comfortable in his upscale church.
Perhaps openness to people of various socio-economic groups might be part of the answer to the 40-year decline.
Larry Brown African Bible College , Lilongwe, Malawi
Thanks, Meghan, for your concern
Posted Tuesday, August 28, 2007
Thanks, Meghan, for your concern. However, there are so many places to start a response to you that I am almost a loss for what to say first.
In your letter [Letters, August 27, 2007], you said, “… I am more than a little confused. …”
I agree. You seem to think that any evangelical is, by definition, well-grounded in a systematic theology which makes sense and can, in fact, readily equip the saints with effective doctrine. That is the first error. Evangelical is a term which has become so watered down and diffuse as to be nearly meaningless. I try not to even use the term evangelical. There are plenty of progressive liberals in the church who will tell you – with a straight face – that they are evangelicals.
You go on to say: “If it is apostate to say that Jesus died for everyone, both believers and non-believers. …”
That statement is so far outside of Reformed theology as to be, yes, apostate. In point of fact, any evangelical teaching such a universalist (and un-Scriptural) position is apostate. Scripture is quite clear on the doctrine of election and, by the way, grace. Christ died for the elect.
Further on you say: “… if you accept Jesus as your Lord and Savior, then Jesus will have died for you? And doesn’t that shoot a big hole in the prevenient grace thing?”
Prevenient grace is a Wesleyan/Methodist/Arminian construct frequently used to dispute the doctrine of limited Atonement. As Presbyterians and members of the Reformed church, we reject Arminianism in favor of the Calvinist doctrines codified at Dordt. So, I guess the answer to your question is, “I hope so.”
Rev. Jim Yearsley Tampa, Fla.
About Meghan Foote’s response to Jim Yearsley
Posted Tuesday, August 28, 2007
Meghan Foote’s query [Letters, August 27, 2007] about Jim Yearsley’s statement [Letters, August 24, 2007] about a candidate’s universalism statement during the period of questioning is certainly sincere, but reflects some ignorance about our basic doctrines as Presbyterians.
Meghan, if you look up Calvinism on the web (there are many sites), the valid ones will list the five cornerstone doctrines of the (original) Presbyterian Church, as founded by John Calvin. One of those is the very hard to swallow, but absolutely logical result of the other four, and it states that Jesus died only for those people whom God ordained before the foundation of the world to belong to Him (there are, believe it or not, very good and solid Biblical citations for this doctrine, as funky as it may sound to most modern American Christians).
So, anyone who says that Jesus died for everyone is not Calvinistic (i.e., Presbyterian) in their theology. They are in the vast majority of Christians in this country today, but they would have been thought more than a little odd for most of Christian history.
Such a doctrine not only does not “shoot a big hole in the prevenient grace thing,” but is indeed a totally logical offshoot to that doctrine – God does the choosing, we do not – and so it really is of grace that we are saved, and has nothing to do with ourselves in and of ourselves.
Marc Benton retired pastor
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